Why it's a Transformation, Not a Transition to Life After Sports, w/ Vince Ruiz

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The way I met U.S. Army Veteran, Travis Manion Foundation Mentor and Mental Health Professional, Vince Ruiz was confirmation that there are no accidents in life. Vince and I met at the first ever Between The Ears “Link-Up,” which was founded by one of my former guests and mentors, Bill Anthes. Vince and his buddy just happened to hop in my truck as we car-pooled to a local hiking trail near the Phoenicia Diner in upstate NY. Vince had heard of my podcast from his prior interactions with Bill and started asking me questions about it at the base of the trailhead when we arrived. I began to explain how I interview injured athletes and discuss the transition to life after sports. Without hesitation, Vince followed up on my description with almost a correction of my wording by saying something like “Right on, the TRANSFORMATION.”

Although I had heard this one word (TRANSFORMATION) 1000 times, for whatever reason hearing it come from Vince really struck a cord with me on this day. I had been hosting this podcast and recorded over 150 interviews and had never heard anyone put it that way. In my mind, a transition requires one to only just go through the motions and it makes the situation seem out of your control. On the contrary, I believe “Transformation” stands for growth through action. I love looking at an athletes life after sports from the latter lens. The more I thought about the word, the more I realized how it applied to my own transformation, which was a direct result of starting this podcast and seeking the answers from those who had been there before me, while also shining a light into the darkness for those struggling after me. In this episode, Vince shines an even brighter light into the darkness of the life after sports by taking us through the story of his own struggles with PTSD and addiction after retiring from the military and how he is paying it forward today through the Travis Manion Foundation.

Below are a list of topics we touch on throughout the episode:

  • Vince’s athletic background and how hockey was the focus when he was growing up.

    “Pass it to the good kid”

  • How 9/11 inspired him to join the army.

  • Vince’s transformation to life after the Army (12 Years). Vince tells ALL of his story and you won’t want to miss it!

    • Combat

    • PTSD

    • Alcohol

    • Heroine

    • Overdose

    • Get better

    • Transformation

  • What exactly is PTSD?

    “I signed up for the million dollar experience and I got all of it.”

  • Why social connection is the 51% solution.

  • How Fundamental Life Change is similar in Athletes and Veterans.

  •  Why it is actually arrogant to think that your story.

  • What toughness means to Vince

    “What are you going to do now, that’s what matters.”

  • The importance of meeting his wife, who was also in the Army.

  • Vince’s Role with the Travis Manion Foundation.

  • TMF Principles and how they relate to Athletes.

  • The importance of failing forward.

  • Experiences Vince had with working with Athletes through the Travis Manion Foundation.

  • The role of improv in leadership.

  • Why Character Matters even after your playing days are over.

  • Why athletes and veterans need creative expression and why you need to find an outlet where you love the process.

  • Do you have someone in your life who will challenge you on your BS?

  • 3 key steps to kickstart your transformation 

    “If it’s hard you found the right thing.”



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82 : Athlete & Vet Transition w/ Greg Jones, Former Midshipman, Host of Authentic Athletes Podcast

Greg Jones is a Veteran of the United States Navy and a graduate of the United States Naval Academy where he played wide receiver for the Midshipman.  Greg now host’s the Authentic Athletes Podcast where he interviews professional and college athletes with the goal of providing fun, motivating and educational experiences for listeners based on the life lessons learned by his interviewees.  I came across Greg's podcast on Instagram and was immediately blown away by the guests he has had on the show.  As I dug a little deeper into Greg's story and mission, I realized we are fighting the same fight when it comes to the athlete and veteran transition, both of which he has experienced first-hand.  If you are a fan of this podcast, I have no doubt you will also find value in Authentic Athletes.

Every kid who grows up playing football in the backyard dreams of one day scoring a touchdown either for, or against the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame.  Greg lived out this childhood dream by scoring on a 52 yard reception, and this is where we start the interview; Greg takes us through the play and what set him loose in the secondary to reel in a money ball from QB Rickey Dobbs.  You can watch the play in the video below, and if that doesn't get you jacked up on life, I don't know what the hell will.

Greg was recruited as a quarterback out of high school, but having played multiple sports, coaches viewed him as a well rounded athlete, capable of playing any role on the field.  This versatility came into play in football after being moved to running back and then to wide-out and then again in his military career.  These translatable skills that athletes forge through their sports serve as the foundation for the Authentic Athletes Podcast.

Highlights of the Fighting Irish vs the Midshipmen of Navy 23 - 21 Navy.

Greg's touchdown can be seen at 1:05!

During our discussion, we talk in depth about Greg's transition to life after football and eventually his transition to civilian life.  When it came to life after football, having the title of Naval Officer and First Lieutenant aboard a Minesweeper eased his transition.  However, when football season rolled around, Greg coped with missing the game by calling up his teammates and reminiscing. After serving in the military Greg followed his entrepreneurial spirit to the start-up world.  This transition came a little earlier than anticipated because of a back injury that proved to be very difficult for Greg, especially in terms of having to now sell himself and be a self promoter.  As Greg eventually found out, this struggle is not uncommon.  He would frequently receive calls from his buddies who were looking for advice as some of them began to leave the Navy. This is where the idea for the Authentic Athletes Podcast came from.   Despite all the valuable lessons and leadership training the military provides, resources for the transition to civilian life are lacking.  Greg is now providing that outlet to ease the struggle for others.  Here is a link to all of Greg's interviews to date: PODCAST EPISODES. Some of his previous guests include:


Navy Football Head Coach


National Soccer Hall of Fame - Class of 2016; U.S. Women's National Soccer Team


Army Football Head Coach


6-Time MLS Cup Champion; 4-Time US Soccer Athlete of the Year; US Men's National Team - World Cup '02, '06, '10


3-Time NFL All-Pro


Air Force Football Head Coach

Greg was able to stay relatively injury free throughout his career and we discuss strategies for longevity in sports and football in particular.  Along these lines, we finish this episode by discussing our thoughts on health & safety and the future of football.  Greg believes the state of safety in football and the future of the game is ultimately on the player.  

Injured or not, at some point the game ends for everyone.  I have no doubt Greg's podcast will teach you how apply the tools you learned on the field or on the court to succeed in the next phase of your life - whatever that may be.





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79 : Identifying/Mitigating Risk & A Veteran's Transition After Roadside Bomb, Ryan Miller

Ryan Miller medically retired as a Captain from the US Army in 2012 due to severe wounds he received in Iraq, which ultimately led to the amputation of his left leg.  After becoming dependent on opiate painkillers throughout his recovery he now advocates for cannabis use.  Ryan graduated with a degree in Nuclear Engineering from the United States Military Academy at West Point and earned a masters degree in both business administration and public policy from Harvard.  I met Ryan while in Pittsburgh at the World Medical Cannabis Convention and Expo for my interview with Eben Britton.  I felt an immediate connection to Ryan when I walked up to him at the C.A.M.O. booth and he began to educate me on the many benefits that cannabis and hemp have to offer to the world.  It wasn't until later on in our conversation that I found out the he was wearing a prosthetic leg under his jeans.

Ryan grew up in Staten Island, NY and defined himself as a football player at Stuyvesant High School, which he described as a school full of overachievers.  As a fellow fullback/linebacker, Ryan was never afraid of a little contact. During this episode, Ryan takes us through some moments of his high school glory days including a play where he suffered a compression sprain of his spine and forced him out of the remainder of that game.  Besides that injury, Ryan stayed relatively healthy and surgery-free until the wounds he suffered on the battlefield during his military career.

"All your live's have just changed dramatically, That said, we have to lab, we have to execute."

In addition to his influential uncle, Ryan decided to attend The United States Military Academy at West Point as a way to further differentiate himself from his high school classmates who were going on to Harvard, Yale, etc.  Ryan started at West Point in the Fall of 2001 and one of my favorite parts of this interview was when he described what the atmosphere was like on campus on 9/11.  Ryan's high school football team practiced on a field that was literally in the shadows of the World Trade Center, so seeing the planes crash into the buildings obviously hit home hard.  Ryan had just gotten back from the pharmacy and made his bed for AMI (morning inspection). While walking to class, he heard someone say something about a plane hitting the World Trade Center. Ryan's initial thoughts were that it must have been a small plane.  When he got to class one of his teachers had the tv on, and told the class "all your live's have just changed dramatically. That said, we have to lab, we have to execute. Ryan says that sense of normalcy around campus was everywhere.

“He (Professor) was almost planting the seed...Hey we just went on convoy and lost the most beloved member of the platoon, we have to go back out there and execute tomorrow."

I eventually asked Ryan how he ended up going into Infantry after majoring in nuclear engineering.  His answer was interesting in that he said it was quasi peer pressure at West Point.  I believe the dynamics of this peer pressure is similar to the pressures that exist in sports which serve as the foundation of the culture of toughness.  Although addressing the influence of peer pressure on his decision, Ryan doesn't regret his decision at all. 

Ryan was in southern Baghdad, on a high profile mission reassessing the most recently cleared section of the city on October 18th 2007.   He was in a Stryker unit, which is an armored personnel carrier.  These vehicles are really cool and I included a series of videos below to explain their varying capabilities. At that time in southern Baghdad the biggest threat were houses that were rigged to explode.  However, it was a roadside bomb that hit the Stryker unit, which led to Ryan's injuries (severe damage to left leg, shrapnel wounds to the organs in his torso).  Ryan goes into detail in these moments, and nothing I write in this post will give that story justice, so make sure to give this episode a listen!

(U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Juan Valdes)

(U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Juan Valdes)

According to Ryan, in 2007 the best place to have a traumatic injury was Baghdad Iraq because it had the highest survival rate.  Despite the severe wounds to his left leg, he was able to salvage his limb for 3 years after the accident and worked with a future podcast guest, Johnny Owens in the process. We discuss what went into the decision to amputate and you might be surprised to learn that it wasn't anything he lost sleep over. This was because of the lack of functionality Ryan had with his limb and he remembers other people with prosthetics running circles around him.  Prior to his injury, Ryan weighed 230 pounds and was running  a sub 12 minute 2 mile.  Like our man Chris Norton, Ryan advises wounded veterans and injured athletes to not compare yourself to who you were in the past. Ryan also recommends finding a group that challenges you in your recovery and beyond.  

These pieces of advice came from Ryan's struggles throughout his recovery, particularly while in grad school at Harvard where the degradation of his performance was most glaring for him.  Based on Ryan's academic credentials, its safe to assume that he was an absolute rock start in school, especially after graduating near the top of his class at West Point.  However, while at Harvard, Ryan remembers struggling academically, which he believes might have had something to do with the traumatic brain injuries on the battlefield and the opiate use while rehabbing to save his leg.  Lacking a peer group after his injury and physically being in a lot of pain led to a lack of social interaction that could have been beneficial in his recovery.

Although most people assume Ryan used cannabis to get off pain killers, it was actually the rehab done at The Center for The Intrepid that did it.  Despite being strongly against marijuana in high school, he tried it recreationally while in grad school and noticed the positive affects it had on his mood and restless leg syndrome.  Eventually Ryan moved out to California and began advocating for Cannabis to help other veterans kick their addictions to pain killers because he believes that has a lot to do with the high suicide rates among veterans.  Check out some of the organizations listed below that Ryan is involved with.

Lastly, Ryan lives his definition of toughness day in and day out.  To Ryan, toughness is being vulnerable enough to see all sides of an issue and take a stand for what you know is right after educating yourself on the topic at hand. Marijuana and cannabis as a whole have been demonized for decades and by listening to Ryan, a West Point and Harvard graduate, we get a different perspective that has the power to cultivate a new image they may have a positive affect in the world of sports.

WHERE CAN YOU learn more about Ryan's organizations?

Field - Website

Warrior Rising - Website | Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram

C.A.M.O. - Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube


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